by David Jarvis and John Crosby
you remember the time when you worked for Kasanetz Katz in New York?
Youíve said that you didnít enjoy that but looking back at it now, do
you think itís been a good experience for your song writing?
Well, I think I might have said that to justify it but it wasnít really
my thing, this song writing under pressure. We did have a big hit in
France with Susanís Tuba for Freddy & The Dreamers. But the one redeeming
thing was that I already got involved with Eric in the Strawberry Studio
and I was working in NY studios at the time. I said to KK that I wanted
to go back and use the one in Stockport and they said "Fine".
You could even say that, as strange as it sounds, that Kasanetz Katz
were partly instrumental in the formation of 10cc because of that. They
were one of the links in the chain.
the Bloody Tourists promotion tape, there was a song called The Acapulco
Kid which didnít make it onto the album. Do you remember that and can
you tell us something more about it?
I played Rick Fenn a recording of this song and we were bloody amazed
at hearing that again. We both really enjoyed it and we started talking
about why it did not make it on to the Look Hear album because it would
have been such a good track. I think it was because we already had enough
songs for that album but this song itself is very 10cc'ish.The song
was written at a period where Eric was writing with some of the other
guys and Rick and I wrote this one but I think it should have been included
on the album.
heard from Andrew Gold that one of the songs on your new album, Walking
With Angels, is about your time with 10cc. Can you give us any more
details about that?
I can give you more details about it! Itís nothing to do with 10cc.
Nothing at all. I started doing these charity treks about four years
ago. And I told Gordon Kennedy about it. I said I felt very connected
with my late father when I was trekking through Israel. He is a born
again Christian and he immediately popped into this. We were talking
about spirits protecting you, whether it is real or not, and the fact
that your ancestors are always with you. That's when Gordon and I wrote
this song. It's interesting, he's a very religious man, much more religious
than I am, but we found a commonality in this subject matter. That's
how we wrote this song. Itís nothing to do with 10cc!"
the tracks on your new album written with real people in mind?
Yes, I wonít tell you who they were but Walking with Angels was definitely
written with my late father in mind. The track Dancing Days, which I
wrote with Gary Burr in Nashville, was an imaginary song and yet, itís
about certain regret, what could have been; we all have that experience.
There is a song that I wrote with Gary Barlow. This hasnít got anything
to do with anybody but itís a nice pop song. I did a new version of
Ready To Go Home which I did with Miles Benedict who is a more modern
kind of producer and it has worked out well. When you write a song it
can be about something imaginary but there is always some experience
in it that is your own. With Walking with Angels, the influence is up
you know when your album will be released?
Yes, it will be out in October (9th October - ed.). Dome Records is
releasing it in the UK and they are licensing it with different labels
in Europe and Japan. I donít know about America yet and Australia. We
are trying to get some tracks into films or commercials. Thatís the
best way for me to do it, to get people interested in the album.
heard that you might be releasing a single from your album.
they might put a single out but it will only be like a lead track, it
will not be on Top Of The Pops and it will not be played on Radio 1
but it will probably be played on Radio 2. We are not quite sure yet
what itís going to be, thereís a bit of debate about it, but yes, there
is a strong possibility of a single being released.
you have any input as to which track is released as a single?
in so much as I think that it may be totally inappropriate, there are
so many different opinions flying around at the moment, but I think
that between us we will get there, but to be perfectly honest I wouldnít
mind any track being released as a single because I am very proud of
you now decided on the title of your new album?
it will be called And Another Thing. Originally it was going to be called
Walking With Angels but everybody liked And Another Thing and finally
I could see their point of view so we did a photo shoot recently and
kind of nodded to the front cover of The Graham Gouldman Thing. We found
a similar location, similar pose but with different clothes and different
you feel the musicians on this particular tour add a new sparkle?
Well, itís been really great to have Paul Burgess back. He is a great
drummer. We havenít used him before because he doesnít sing. And we
need to have four voices. With Spike Edney who does sing, we can have
a drummer who doesnít. Last year, we had Simon Carter on keyboards who
doesnít sing but we had Stuart Tosh drumming who does. Stuart wasnít
available this year anyway; he is working in the West End a lot. When
you go for the standard basic musician it always works. We go for the
best people and it gets better every year. This is a really good combination.
But wherever you are and whatever combination youíre in, you always
think like that! And then the next time you find that itís even better
but you didnít know that, did you?