we just congratulate you on becoming a father again?
Well thank you but Rubyís 17 months old now whilst my other children
are nearly adults.
on to things musical now, can you tell us about your group "The
Circle Of FourĒ and "The TheramonesĒ?
The Circle of FourÖ..Now then, where did you hear about that?
you told us at Ronnie Scottís last year.
Right, I remember now! Well, The Theramones is basically just a "fun
bandĒ that I assemble and it is run on a floating membership basis and
I am the common denominator. We did a gig last week (early Oct) and
we are doing a gig this Saturday at the London Hilton on Park Lane in
London. The one we did last Thursday was for a friend of mine who always
throws a party for the Red Arrows, itís a bit of a shindig really for
the pilots. We have done the gig for the last three years now and I
to assemble a pretty decent band for those gigs and they are always
great fun to do.
can you tell us about the London Hilton Charity Ball?
Well as you say it is a charity ball in aid of The Childrenís Leukaemia
Trust and I have been doing these special gigs for the last six or seven
years. I actually got Eric Stewart to appear as a special guest with
me and I think that would have been the last time Eric and I played
together live on stage; it was a memorable night and like I have said
before, great fun. This year I was hoping to get Graham to appear as
a special guest but unfortunately he was away at the time and could
not change his commitments which was a shame; never mind thereís always
Ronnie Scottís next year?
I would not be surprised if Graham and I were at Ronnieís next year.
It is a very intimate club and we are always very close to the audience,
which is great.
wrote a musical a few years ago, could you tell us about that?
One of the most important episodes on my life was indeed the musical
that I wrote with my writing partner, Pete Howarth, for Bill Kenwright
called Robin Ė Prince of Sherwood. The show is not on tour anymore but
it did very well whilst it was on the road and it also did a stint in
the West End. Pete and I spent so much time and
put in so much effort in to this project that itís more like a rock
opera rather than a musical and we are very proud of it. I suppose you
could even call it a real family musical because it was very much aimed
at family audiences.
any music from the show still available?
Some cassettes and CDís were sold in the foyer of the venues but it
was never commercially released. At the moment Pete and I are very busy
writing the new musical for Bill and that is taking up a lot of our
Howarth sounds like he is very special to you?
Pete is indeed a very important person in my life and I donít tend
to just refer to him as my writing partner, he is a very close personal
there any other projects you have worked on lately apart from the musical?
Well over the period of time that Pete and I have worked together we
have assembled an album of brand new material called Still I Fly but
unfortunately this again will not be intended for commercial release.
We are both very proud of this album; there is even a song on the album
about my new daughter: Ruby Mae. Also on BBC 1 there is a documentary
about O.J. Simpson and it is a very gripping documentary about O.J.
and I wrote and played all the music for this programme. This was a
very challenging project because they wanted the music to be a very
sort of "LAĒ Black Hip-Hop style, so it took a while to home in
on that kind of style.
piano startís to play in the background] Thatís my daughter playing
the piano, she is pretty good I must say.
can you recall about your Reflections album?
Good God thatís going back a bit now! Let me think, well basically
I was commissioned to write this album which is a library album with
a mixture of jingles and short tunes of various styles but looking back
now I know I could of done a lot better, thatís not to say Iím ashamed
of the album but it could have been better. Quite a lot of companies
approach me to do this kind of thing in various styles like bottleneck
style, which Iím pretty good at. They are quite nice to do and they
form a quite nice source of relaxed income.
also worked with Peter Green at one stage.
Yes thatís right, I played with Peter many years ago but I have never
managed to get hold of any recordings that I was involved in. A lot
of it was done about 20 years ago and I was part of a little band that
was assembled around Peter just to try and get him back out in to the
field really. Recently he has been back out and about and one of my
friends, Spike Edney, has been out on tour with him. Peter was and still
is one of my all time heroes because at the time I was playing with
him he was playing cutting edge blues along the likes of the main man,
guitarist do you admire most?
There are far too many really but I suppose the main two are Ry Cooder
and Jimi Hendrix.
I take you back to around 1978 and The Acapulco Kid?
It was amazing and so funny to hear that song again because you
[10cc Official pages] interviewed Eric and you mentioned this song and
he could not recall the title. As I read the interview I thought to
myself "I know that titleĒ but I did not make the connection
at all although there was something in the back of my mind telling me
that I should know. It was not until Graham called me and said "Did
we do a song called The Acapulco Kid?Ē and I said "Christ, yes
thatís what it was!Ē I could not wait to hear it again and so Graham
sent me a cassette of the song and I couldnít believe it, it was brilliant
and so refreshing to hear it again after 23 years, it just simply blew
me away. I am amazed that it never made it on to an album even though
this version is very basic. I wish we had finished it properly but we
never got around to it.
you been in contact with either Eric or Graham lately?
I am always in pretty regular contact with Graham; in fact we have just
filmed a slot for London T.V. doing Heart full Of Soul and Mick Wilson
was there as well. We were only miming to a backing track but it was
good. I spoke to Eric a couple of weeks ago and we were talking about
the Paul Young Memorial Concert up in Manchester and he was saying that
he would very much like to be a part of it. Eric is very easy to get
on with and there is also a lot of mutual respect for each otherís guitar
playing. Heís a really nice chap.
band at Ronnie Scottís last year sounded superb, what do you think?
I agree, the sound was superb; the band was really rocking and after
Ronnie Scottís we played a festival in Germany and we went down an absolute
storm. I can remember thinking at the time that this was just too good
to let it all go and go back to our day jobs but it just didnít happen
which is a real shame really and even the short American tour failed
can you remember about Dr Pepper?
It was the very first project that I ever worked on with Eric and
Graham and as with The Acapulco Kid it was amazing to hear it for the
very first time, I remember Eric and Graham arranged the 10cc rendition
of Dr Pepper superbly.